Redeemer University Students Enter Faith and Science Debate

Redeemer University College students recently competed for $13,000 in scholarship funds by writing essays about faith and science.

To enter the competition, students had to write an essay on any issue or topic raised in the book Rescuing Science from Preconceived Beliefs by Gary Chiang, a biology professor at Redeemer and self-described young-earth creationist.

Chiang said the book shows that “both evolution and creationism are theories, not facts, placing them on the same level,” and that “our worldviews and religious beliefs have an effect on the interpretation of scientific information.”

The scholarship competition, offered through the Arthur Custance Centre for Science, offered a top prize of $5,000.

The competition was offered in response to recent articles written by Calvin College professors John Schneider and Daniel Harlow about the early chapters of Genesis (Banner February 2011). Calvin College is owned by the Christian Reformed Church. Redeemer is a sister school.

Chiang said the essays were ranked by a panel of judges who fall on both sides of the debate, thus encouraging students to write from all angles. Chiang hopes the contest will get more students thinking about the issues and help them form educated opinions on the subject.

Chiang said that while the essay competition was for Redeemer students, the college has not stated an official position regarding the debate.

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"Chiang said, the book shows that "both evolution and creationism are theories, not facts, placing them on the same level. "

Taking the sacred, authoritative, inerrant Word of God, and reducing it down to theory, is blasphemy. How our church colleges are allowed to get away with this type of teaching without school Presidents, Boards, and the Church Synod raising eyebrows, Church, that's why we have them.

Creationism is not up for sale in our Christian Institutions. Administrators need to assure us, that they are not selling out!

Wow, sorry for the major typo. I meant to say, and the Church Synod raising eyebrows, is beyond me.

Just to say too. Our biology departments are not exempt, from conforming to the truth and authority of Scripture.

Great! I am glad to hear these intellectually stretching activities are being put before students. This is where the "rubber hits the road", where one can learn more about the nature of God.

Professor Chiang says in the article that his book shows that “both evolution and creationism are theories, not facts, placing them on the same level,”
Let’s start with some facts. From a purely Biblical view we can only come to the conclusion that creation is true & evolution is a lie. From those who use man’s fallible ideas and wish that there were not a God to whom they are accountable the result will be that they will place their faith and trust in the evolutionary hypothesis. The fact is that your results will be entirely based on your starting point. And let’s be crystal clear that neither is “scientific” in that neither has been observed, neither can be tested, nor can either belief be repeatable.
So in that respect both are the same level. However, Chaing says more than perhaps intended when he continues to say that “our worldviews and religious beliefs have an effect on the interpretation of scientific information.” This really is the crux of the whole discussion. Who are you going to believe, an all powerful God, who was there, who knows all things, who cannot lie and who has written it all down for us, or man’s fallible ideas. And let’s remember the theory evolution wasn’t the result of persuasive scientific evidence that was so compelling or that it was ever observed tested or repeated. Evolutionary speculation was around long before Darwin popularized it, or even long before we understood most of what we now know in the area of biology, not to mention geology, anthropology, etc. It’s origins, and for that matter its present religious following, have its roots firmly in the hope that there is not a God to whom we are accountable.
But the two are diametrically opposed and are irreconcilable. One is the gospel of a perfect start which was marred by sin, judgment, redemption and someday a return to a perfect state. The other is a gospel which has always included pain, death, disease, and struggle and has only the hope that someday we will evolve enough to reach some sort of utopia if we don’t destroy ourselves first.
So are they really on the same level? I’ll put my trust in a God who told me what happened. True science flourishes in environments where God’s Word becomes the “glasses” by which we explore His creation. Belief in a fairy tale only leads to fairy tale results.

I would like to make a revision to my previous blog. After speaking with someone who knows Professor Chiang and his viewpoints I would like to rephrase the second sentence in the second paragraph to read as follows; Professor Chaing reveals the crux of the whole discussion when he continues by saying that “our worldviews and religious beliefs have an effect on the interpretation of scientific information.”
It has been made clear to me that Prof Chaing is truly interested in serious dialogue on the subject while giving proper honour to God’s revealed Word and not just absorbing the evolutionary fable.

To learn more about Professor Chiang including his credentials and positions on the creation/evolution debate visit:
http://www.freewebs.com/gchiang/bio.htm
Follow the links at the bottom of the page.
I misinterpreted his stand when I read the quote in the above article and I am glad I was corrected. I want to encourage Prof Chiang is what he is doing.

What makes Redeemer a sister school to Calvin, the fact that it's Christian? No college with a young earth creationist teaching biology should be taken seriously.

What makes Redeemer a sister school to Calvin, the fact that it's Christian? No college with a young earth creationist teaching biology should be taken seriously.

Sorry for the double post

That's not a real academic response from you Charley but unfortunately a typical evolutionists response. Just say something enough times and throw insults at anyone who stands up & declare that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes and the masses will blindly follow. And guess what it's working. Evolution is the predominant worldview in academia.
Yet, if ever there was an idea that merits ridicule it would be the theory of evolution. Let's see; it has never been observed, so it can't be tested and can't be repeated. Scientifically impossible, completely illogical, biblically irreconcilable.
You neglect to mention that evolution has no basis in real science. You are either unaware or you neglected to mention that evolution has its roots firmly and religiously planted in the desire to remove God from the picture, thereby removing our accountability to Him. The hope that someday science would give some credibility to the hypothesis was an afterthought. Since that hasn't happened the method has changed to intimidation, academic exclusion, insults and the ever popular "evolution is science, creation is faith" tactic which is seriously becoming quite tiring. You may be surprised how many Biblical creationists are teaching in the academic world, although some may not as be as open as Prof Chiang for fear of being terminated. Apparently you would also be surprised at the number of secular scientists who scoff at the possibility of evolution.
I know of professors who taught evolution in universities for many years and have since changed their way of thinking completely. Prior, they had simply repeated what they had been told without challenge.
Before you make a statement such as you did, I would ask that you challenge what you have been told. Don't just accept it, see if it makes sense. Both evolution & Biblical creationism require faith, neither can be "proved" by science. Study within various fields of science is what you do with the presuppositions you have. Then test and see what makes sense. Nothing we have discovered in science has conflicted with what we read in scripture.
I am a Biblical creationist and I love science. Hopefully that doesn't mean that you won't even bother to take me seriously :)

That's not a real academic response from you Charley but unfortunately a typical evolutionists response. Just say something enough times and throw insults at anyone who stands up & declare that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes and the masses will blindly follow. And guess what it's working. Evolution is the predominant worldview in academia.
Yet, if ever there was an idea that merits ridicule it would be the theory of evolution. Let's see; it has never been observed, so it can't be tested and can't be repeated. Scientifically impossible, completely illogical, biblically irreconcilable.
You neglect to mention that evolution has no basis in real science. You are either unaware or you neglected to mention that evolution has its roots firmly and religiously planted in the desire to remove God from the picture, thereby removing our accountability to Him. The hope that someday science would give some credibility to the hypothesis was an afterthought. Since that hasn't happened the method has changed to intimidation, academic exclusion, insults and the ever popular "evolution is science, creation is faith" tactic which is seriously becoming quite tiring. You may be surprised how many Biblical creationists are teaching in the academic world, although some may not as be as open as Prof Chiang for fear of being terminated. Apparently you would also be surprised at the number of secular scientists who scoff at the possibility of evolution.
I know of professors who taught evolution in universities for many years and have since changed their way of thinking completely. Prior, they had simply repeated what they had been told without challenge.
Before you make a statement such as you did, I would ask that you challenge what you have been told. Don't just accept it, see if it makes sense. Both evolution & Biblical creationism require faith, neither can be "proved" by science. Study within various fields of science is what you do with the presuppositions you have. Then test and see what makes sense. Nothing we have discovered in science has conflicted with what we read in scripture.
I am a Biblical creationist and I love science. Hopefully that doesn't mean that you won't even bother to take me seriously :)

That's not a real academic response from you Charley but unfortunately a typical evolutionists response. Just say something enough times and throw insults at anyone who stands up & declare that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes and the masses will blindly follow. And guess what it's working. Evolution is the predominant worldview in academia.
Yet, if ever there was an idea that merits ridicule it would be the theory of evolution. Let's see; it has never been observed, so it can't be tested and can't be repeated. Scientifically impossible, completely illogical, biblically irreconcilable.
You neglect to mention that evolution has no basis in real science. You are either unaware or you neglected to mention that evolution has its roots firmly and religiously planted in the desire to remove God from the picture, thereby removing our accountability to Him. The hope that someday science would give some credibility to the hypothesis was an afterthought. Since that hasn't happened the method has changed to intimidation, academic exclusion, insults and the ever popular "evolution is science, creation is faith" tactic which is seriously becoming quite tiring. You may be surprised how many Biblical creationists are teaching in the academic world, although some may not as be as open as Prof Chiang for fear of being terminated. Apparently you would also be surprised at the number of secular scientists who scoff at the possibility of evolution.
I know of professors who taught evolution in universities for many years and have since changed their way of thinking completely. Prior, they had simply repeated what they had been told without challenge.
Before you make a statement such as you did, I would ask that you challenge what you have been told. Don't just accept it, see if it makes sense. Both evolution & Biblical creationism require faith, neither can be "proved" by science. Study within various fields of science is what you do with the presuppositions you have. Then test and see what makes sense. Nothing we have discovered in science has conflicted with what we read in scripture.
I am a Biblical creationist and I love science. Hopefully that doesn't mean that you won't even bother to take me seriously :)

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